Comments on: The dope on TheLadders http://corcodilos.com/blog/311/the-dope-on-theladders The insider's edge on job search & hiring™ | Copyright © 2011 North Bridge Group, Inc. All rights reserved. Mon, 21 May 2012 10:58:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Tony http://corcodilos.com/blog/311/the-dope-on-theladders/comment-page-6#comment-306402 Tony Mon, 23 Apr 2012 19:23:49 +0000 http://corcodilos.com/blog/?p=311#comment-306402 When you pay the premium amount you are told your resume is evaluated, read and edited by a professional. This is a lie. An automated computer program compiles pre-canned notes to your resume based on some algorithm. The notes are unhelpful and are the same general tips you'd get from googling tips for resume. Some of the tips didn't even apply to my resume at all... It is not customized or personal at all! ! Just pre-canned drivel. Don't pay for the Ladders!!!! When you pay the premium amount you are told your resume is evaluated, read and edited by a professional. This is a lie. An automated computer program compiles pre-canned notes to your resume based on some algorithm. The notes are unhelpful and are the same general tips you’d get from googling tips for resume. Some of the tips didn’t even apply to my resume at all… It is not customized or personal at all! ! Just pre-canned drivel.

Don’t pay for the Ladders!!!!

]]> By: Bob McGinnis http://corcodilos.com/blog/311/the-dope-on-theladders/comment-page-6#comment-292969 Bob McGinnis Fri, 23 Mar 2012 21:29:20 +0000 http://corcodilos.com/blog/?p=311#comment-292969 TheLadders.com? Markets change quickly and volume during these times for such a market are vital. I recently aquired TheLadders.com do draft a more current resume for myself only to be ignored. Oh, they took their money immediately, but did I receive a call, thank you or even an email. No! It's been 3 days since aquiring TheLadders.com to do this for me and still nothing. I requested to be refunded in full. I must say that the individual whom sold me on this at TheLadders was very apologetic and helpful. It would be nice when companies establish themselves that they first wait to go to market until they know they can handle the volume. Most businesses experience pain points, but my experience has been once these pain points are brought to light in such companies they are merely brushed aside and never really addressed. Imagine how much more revenue could be generated if someone would just take the time to do it right the first time and address issues as they arise. Too many chiefs and not enough indians??? Someone is taking the money to the bank. Doesn't that someone want to take more to the bank? Go figure! TheLadders.com? Markets change quickly and volume during these times for such a market are vital. I recently aquired TheLadders.com do draft a more current resume for myself only to be ignored. Oh, they took their money immediately, but did I receive a call, thank you or even an email. No! It’s been 3 days since aquiring TheLadders.com to do this for me and still nothing. I requested to be refunded in full. I must say that the individual whom sold me on this at TheLadders was very apologetic and helpful. It would be nice when companies establish themselves that they first wait to go to market until they know they can handle the volume. Most businesses experience pain points, but my experience has been once these pain points are brought to light in such companies they are merely brushed aside and never really addressed. Imagine how much more revenue could be generated if someone would just take the time to do it right the first time and address issues as they arise. Too many chiefs and not enough indians??? Someone is taking the money to the bank. Doesn’t that someone want to take more to the bank? Go figure!

]]> By: tom kane http://corcodilos.com/blog/311/the-dope-on-theladders/comment-page-6#comment-265722 tom kane Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:07:34 +0000 http://corcodilos.com/blog/?p=311#comment-265722 The Ladders is the most inept organization that I have hired. For the last 7 years I was President/CEO & Chairman of a $10M manufacturer. The time came for me to move, so the Ladders lured me in with the money back guarantee. For 6 months I executed the search with all my effort and following the guidelines of the Ladders. Not one interview resulted from the ladders leads. I participated in 2 interviews through my own contacts. NOW, the Ladders does not want to refund their guarantee because I am 5 phone calls short to my career counselor according to their "checklist of accountability". I have blown away all the other checklist metrics including # of resumes submitted (they require 3/week and I've been burning 30/month). It is simply illogical to use a checklist as the measure of an individuals search effort. It is not reasonable to think that 5 more 15 minute "check-in" calls to my career counselor would have made any difference in the dismal results of their planned program. Further to withhold a $2500 refund indicates that somehow the Ladders believes that services offered have been delivered. OK, "we guarantee a job in 6 months". No, Marc Cenedella that did NOT happen, and in fact your system failed to initiate ONE SINGLE INTERVIEW despite my dedicated compliance to your proven program. So your Signature program now only failed to produce a job it produced literally ZERO INTERVIEWS for a polished C level executive with 20+ years of excellence. And now your policy decision: you missed 5 calls to your adviser over the 6 month program, making you ineligible for the refund, just read the terms and conditions Mr. Kane. Scam? definitely. Professional ethics? Moral Fabric of the Ladders leadership? A commitment from Marc Cenedella that he stands by his organization and makes good on his BOLD marketing statements. Marc is a well funded fraud at best and a loathsome talent-less queen of the marketing glitter parade, nonetheless, his personal values and company policies prove him to be a cold and inert con artist who gets fat on costly false promises. He is to inexperience and generally ignorant to recognize that he will not leave a legacy of a great company behind. He is making enemies with a select group of businessmen who will expose him and bring down his house of cards. And these men will do it, not for spite, but because it is the right thing to do. (The lessons that Marc missed while he was weasel-wording his terms and conditions.) As for me, I will be in small claims court should anyone care to join me. The Ladders is the most inept organization that I have hired. For the last 7 years I was President/CEO & Chairman of a $10M manufacturer. The time came for me to move, so the Ladders lured me in with the money back guarantee. For 6 months I executed the search with all my effort and following the guidelines of the Ladders. Not one interview resulted from the ladders leads. I participated in 2 interviews through my own contacts. NOW, the Ladders does not want to refund their guarantee because I am 5 phone calls short to my career counselor according to their “checklist of accountability”. I have blown away all the other checklist metrics including # of resumes submitted (they require 3/week and I’ve been burning 30/month). It is simply illogical to use a checklist as the measure of an individuals search effort. It is not reasonable to think that 5 more 15 minute “check-in” calls to my career counselor would have made any difference in the dismal results of their planned program. Further to withhold a $2500 refund indicates that somehow the Ladders believes that services offered have been delivered. OK, “we guarantee a job in 6 months”. No, Marc Cenedella that did NOT happen, and in fact your system failed to initiate ONE SINGLE INTERVIEW despite my dedicated compliance to your proven program. So your Signature program now only failed to produce a job it produced literally ZERO INTERVIEWS for a polished C level executive with 20+ years of excellence. And now your policy decision: you missed 5 calls to your adviser over the 6 month program, making you ineligible for the refund, just read the terms and conditions Mr. Kane. Scam? definitely. Professional ethics? Moral Fabric of the Ladders leadership? A commitment from Marc Cenedella that he stands by his organization and makes good on his BOLD marketing statements. Marc is a well funded fraud at best and a loathsome talent-less queen of the marketing glitter parade, nonetheless, his personal values and company policies prove him to be a cold and inert con artist who gets fat on costly false promises. He is to inexperience and generally ignorant to recognize that he will not leave a legacy of a great company behind. He is making enemies with a select group of businessmen who will expose him and bring down his house of cards. And these men will do it, not for spite, but because it is the right thing to do. (The lessons that Marc missed while he was weasel-wording his terms and conditions.)

As for me, I will be in small claims court should anyone care to join me.

]]> By: kavitha http://corcodilos.com/blog/311/the-dope-on-theladders/comment-page-6#comment-254080 kavitha Mon, 26 Dec 2011 04:36:29 +0000 http://corcodilos.com/blog/?p=311#comment-254080 Is there any way we can complain on these guys .No response from those guys . If I can scold them , I should do it myself first as I should have done some research before I payed for it as a recruiter . Is there any way we can complain on these guys .No response from those guys . If I can scold them , I should do it myself first as I should have done some research before I payed for it as a recruiter .

]]> By: Tom S. http://corcodilos.com/blog/311/the-dope-on-theladders/comment-page-5#comment-235000 Tom S. Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:14:57 +0000 http://corcodilos.com/blog/?p=311#comment-235000 TheLadders is probably not worth the cost. Their new policy on showing ALL jobs (not just $100K+) is disappointing. I received no solid follow-ups/interviews from TheLadders. All face-to-face interviews came from leads on CareerBuilder and Monster. I paid nothing to post my resume on these two sites. I wish I would have focused more attention to their sites than TheLadders and tried their paid services. Also, I received direct calls from companies that found my resume on the other sites and not one company I interviewed with found me on or referred tome from TheLadders. After a 3-month search (two of which I focused on TheLadders...ARGH!!!) I have landed a new position as a Major Accounts Manager that I couldn't be happier with. TheLadders is probably not worth the cost. Their new policy on showing ALL jobs (not just $100K+) is disappointing. I received no solid follow-ups/interviews from TheLadders. All face-to-face interviews came from leads on CareerBuilder and Monster. I paid nothing to post my resume on these two sites. I wish I would have focused more attention to their sites than TheLadders and tried their paid services. Also, I received direct calls from companies that found my resume on the other sites and not one company I interviewed with found me on or referred tome from TheLadders.

After a 3-month search (two of which I focused on TheLadders…ARGH!!!) I have landed a new position as a Major Accounts Manager that I couldn’t be happier with.

]]> By: Michelle http://corcodilos.com/blog/311/the-dope-on-theladders/comment-page-5#comment-232753 Michelle Mon, 07 Nov 2011 21:15:58 +0000 http://corcodilos.com/blog/?p=311#comment-232753 Thanks for the article. I know it's pretty old news, but I was prompted to search for information on TheLadders when I saw a position listed by the site for an Executive Assistant position through Indeed.com. First flag, the position was posted through a third party. Second flag, it's for an Executive Assistant position. No way it pays more than $80k. And it's with a company that, according to my research, doesn't exactly pay in the high range of competitive. Pretty disgusting that there are still job-search sites out there made solely to take people for their much-needed income. Thanks for the article. I know it’s pretty old news, but I was prompted to search for information on TheLadders when I saw a position listed by the site for an Executive Assistant position through Indeed.com.

First flag, the position was posted through a third party. Second flag, it’s for an Executive Assistant position. No way it pays more than $80k. And it’s with a company that, according to my research, doesn’t exactly pay in the high range of competitive.

Pretty disgusting that there are still job-search sites out there made solely to take people for their much-needed income.

]]> By: What are some complaints you have about resume writing services? | best job hunting guide http://corcodilos.com/blog/311/the-dope-on-theladders/comment-page-5#comment-225146 What are some complaints you have about resume writing services? | best job hunting guide Wed, 05 Oct 2011 20:18:17 +0000 http://corcodilos.com/blog/?p=311#comment-225146 [...] you have used one what is something you would have changed or made better? Powered by Yahoo! AnswersI am starting a resume writing service but I want to perfect what the current resume services are la... WordPress › [...] [...] you have used one what is something you would have changed or made better? Powered by Yahoo! AnswersI am starting a resume writing service but I want to perfect what the current resume services are la… WordPress › [...]

]]> By: Kira http://corcodilos.com/blog/311/the-dope-on-theladders/comment-page-5#comment-222801 Kira Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:27:45 +0000 http://corcodilos.com/blog/?p=311#comment-222801 I appreciate your article. However, I have the FREE Ladders membership which I use exclusively for the articles, and I find many of them quite good. I recommend the articles to my mentees at my alma mater, too. I agree it is not worth paying for their services. I appreciate your article. However, I have the FREE Ladders membership which I use exclusively for the articles, and I find many of them quite good. I recommend the articles to my mentees at my alma mater, too. I agree it is not worth paying for their services.

]]> By: PJ http://corcodilos.com/blog/311/the-dope-on-theladders/comment-page-5#comment-222331 PJ Sun, 18 Sep 2011 21:00:03 +0000 http://corcodilos.com/blog/?p=311#comment-222331 Everyone cuts the THE LADDER but meanwhile they are laughing all the way to the bank!! what is the point??? If it is deceptive advertising DO SOMETHING! There is enough verbiage o nthis site to petition and start a C.A suit!!! Everyone cuts the THE LADDER but meanwhile they are laughing all the way to the bank!!
what is the point???

If it is deceptive advertising DO SOMETHING!
There is enough verbiage o nthis site to petition and start a C.A suit!!!

]]> By: Denise http://corcodilos.com/blog/311/the-dope-on-theladders/comment-page-5#comment-222327 Denise Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:42:56 +0000 http://corcodilos.com/blog/?p=311#comment-222327 I'm very happy that I found this post. These are my experiences with The Ladders: I used their resume writing service and it was horrible. You never speak with the writer by phone and they were only allowing 2 drafts until I complained that I was not happy and would contact BBB if they did not provide more drafts until I was happy. 1. After spending nearly $1K for a new resume and cover letter three years ago, I NEVER received a call from a recruiter with their resume. However, I receive calls from my own resume that I wrote myself. 2. After they re-wrote my resume with a PR focus, I immediately applied for a job with The Ladders are a PR Director. I didn't get a call back. 3. I've applied for jobs that recruiters have posted and have not gotten any responses back - and that was using the resume written by The Ladders. 4. The cover letter is generic. It was the exact format of the cover letters found for entry level jobs in college text books. 5. I provided another resume writing service (that's cheaper) and they said the resume written by The Ladders was a good start, but ineffective as a sales tool as the statements were too general, the company descriptions to detailed and the information was job description instead of success metrics. I’m very happy that I found this post. These are my experiences with The Ladders:

I used their resume writing service and it was horrible. You never speak with the writer by phone and they were only allowing 2 drafts until I complained that I was not happy and would contact BBB if they did not provide more drafts until I was happy.

1. After spending nearly $1K for a new resume and cover letter three years ago, I NEVER received a call from a recruiter with their resume. However, I receive calls from my own resume that I wrote myself.

2. After they re-wrote my resume with a PR focus, I immediately applied for a job with The Ladders are a PR Director. I didn’t get a call back.

3. I’ve applied for jobs that recruiters have posted and have not gotten any responses back – and that was using the resume written by The Ladders.

4. The cover letter is generic. It was the exact format of the cover letters found for entry level jobs in college text books.

5. I provided another resume writing service (that’s cheaper) and they said the resume written by The Ladders was a good start, but ineffective as a sales tool as the statements were too general, the company descriptions to detailed and the information was job description instead of success metrics.

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