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		<title>By: Angelo</title>
		<link>http://corcodilos.com/blog/341/an-open-letter-to-recruiters-who-use-theladders-stop-complaining/comment-page-1#comment-251398</link>
		<dc:creator>Angelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 22:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After almost 3 years I am posting here again. That recruiter complaining for job hunters answering to all advertised job, should look at recruiters&#039; practice. They do exactly the same. After 3 years I still have to see a recruiters doing his/her job in the right way. Lately Indians gave a new meaning to the word &quot;unskilled&quot;. I was/am not racist but boy, I could publish a book with all the stupid emails I get from recruiters!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After almost 3 years I am posting here again. That recruiter complaining for job hunters answering to all advertised job, should look at recruiters&#8217; practice. They do exactly the same. After 3 years I still have to see a recruiters doing his/her job in the right way. Lately Indians gave a new meaning to the word &#8220;unskilled&#8221;. I was/am not racist but boy, I could publish a book with all the stupid emails I get from recruiters!</p>
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		<title>By: An open letter(s) to recruiters &#171; Marty&#39;s Monday JSWT</title>
		<link>http://corcodilos.com/blog/341/an-open-letter-to-recruiters-who-use-theladders-stop-complaining/comment-page-1#comment-27066</link>
		<dc:creator>An open letter(s) to recruiters &#171; Marty&#39;s Monday JSWT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One on the technology angle [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://corcodilos.com/blog/341/an-open-letter-to-recruiters-who-use-theladders-stop-complaining/comment-page-1#comment-25177</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with some of these - as a CPA with a tax background, I get e-mails from recruiters who are &#039;spaghetti-ing&#039; their efforts. I find it really annoying to get interested in a position, only to find that the client had quite different expectations. All that results in is a waste of my time and theirs, and some bad feelings on both sides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with some of these &#8211; as a CPA with a tax background, I get e-mails from recruiters who are &#8216;spaghetti-ing&#8217; their efforts. I find it really annoying to get interested in a position, only to find that the client had quite different expectations. All that results in is a waste of my time and theirs, and some bad feelings on both sides.</p>
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		<title>By: What Would Dad Say &#187; 12 Reasons LinkUp Will Be the New, Best Way to Find Your Next Job</title>
		<link>http://corcodilos.com/blog/341/an-open-letter-to-recruiters-who-use-theladders-stop-complaining/comment-page-1#comment-7454</link>
		<dc:creator>What Would Dad Say &#187; 12 Reasons LinkUp Will Be the New, Best Way to Find Your Next Job</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 19:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BS, they get jobs from SimplyHired/Indeed and many of of the jobs are not even close to $100k. They have even been called out on this, but still persist with the ads. Another favorite is Employment Guide, who has a gigantic customer [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] BS, they get jobs from SimplyHired/Indeed and many of of the jobs are not even close to $100k. They have even been called out on this, but still persist with the ads. Another favorite is Employment Guide, who has a gigantic customer [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bear</title>
		<link>http://corcodilos.com/blog/341/an-open-letter-to-recruiters-who-use-theladders-stop-complaining/comment-page-1#comment-6598</link>
		<dc:creator>Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick is right. In the &#039;old&#039; days, recruiting tools were a rolodex and a telephone (the really good recruiters still use them). If you were lucky, your office had a fax machine. Thanks to the internet, both recruiters and job hunters now rely on the &#039;Apply now&#039; buttons on the job boards. 

Most resumes submitted in this manner either receive a standard letter acknowleding receipt, or nothing at at. Granted, recruiters are being bombarded with resumes these days, so job hunters need to know how to be squeaky wheels and &quot;get the grease.&quot; In today&#039;s market, the so-called traditional (eg online) methods are ineffective and require a radical mindset overhaul -- for both recruiters and job hunters.

My advice to job hunters is to avoid the boards and hone up on your Google skills. You&#039;d be amazed at the job and contact information you&#039;ll find outside of the job boards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick is right. In the &#8216;old&#8217; days, recruiting tools were a rolodex and a telephone (the really good recruiters still use them). If you were lucky, your office had a fax machine. Thanks to the internet, both recruiters and job hunters now rely on the &#8216;Apply now&#8217; buttons on the job boards. </p>
<p>Most resumes submitted in this manner either receive a standard letter acknowleding receipt, or nothing at at. Granted, recruiters are being bombarded with resumes these days, so job hunters need to know how to be squeaky wheels and &#8220;get the grease.&#8221; In today&#8217;s market, the so-called traditional (eg online) methods are ineffective and require a radical mindset overhaul &#8212; for both recruiters and job hunters.</p>
<p>My advice to job hunters is to avoid the boards and hone up on your Google skills. You&#8217;d be amazed at the job and contact information you&#8217;ll find outside of the job boards.</p>
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		<title>By: BBB</title>
		<link>http://corcodilos.com/blog/341/an-open-letter-to-recruiters-who-use-theladders-stop-complaining/comment-page-1#comment-6329</link>
		<dc:creator>BBB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m (still) employed by a bankrupt company with a jet-jockey CEO who drove it into the ground and got a big bonus for it.  The HR department runs entirely on a job-board engine, although when I hired there years ago it was via networking.

I&#039;m beginning to think we have created a generation of fools who have peter-principled themselves into all the seats of power, these sons and daughters of the &quot;greatest generation&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m (still) employed by a bankrupt company with a jet-jockey CEO who drove it into the ground and got a big bonus for it.  The HR department runs entirely on a job-board engine, although when I hired there years ago it was via networking.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m beginning to think we have created a generation of fools who have peter-principled themselves into all the seats of power, these sons and daughters of the &#8220;greatest generation&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Claudia Samuelson</title>
		<link>http://corcodilos.com/blog/341/an-open-letter-to-recruiters-who-use-theladders-stop-complaining/comment-page-1#comment-6264</link>
		<dc:creator>Claudia Samuelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 22:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just thought I&#039;d put my two cents worth into this mix.  Most people that post their public resumes fall prey to some of the not so experienced recruiters out there.  In this type of a job market, I understand that the scared job hunters are trying every avenue known to mankind to get noticed.  It&#039;s also true that over the last decade, more and more of this &quot;getting noticed&quot; takes place over the internet.  This is part of what I call, the &quot;want it now&quot; situation.  Immediate gratification for a small investment. 
When people don&#039;t take the time to meet with each other and find ways to connect, it&#039;s impossible to get rid of the lousy recruiters who don&#039;t want to spend real time working.
There are plenty of dopey internal and external recruiters out there who read &quot;ruby on rails&quot; and want to talk with you, Angelo when you post your resume on line. 

The people that are the good recruiters, who don&#039;t see your resume on line, who want to develop a relationship with you now in the event at some point in the future there may be a great opportunity you want to hear about -- don&#039;t surf the boards looking for people.

The great recruiters are few and far between and it&#039;s as difficult for them to find you as it is for you to find them.  My advice is to do some research in your area of expertise, and locate 3-5 recruiters and interview them.
Long term, it can boost your career potential, help you land the job you do want, and give you an experience working with professionals.

I&#039;m always on the look out for talent - and finding the great people when my customers are seeking them is difficult. As is, finding a great job.  If you&#039;re spending time on the boards, you&#039;ll get the same poor quality with most everyone you&#039;re in contact with.  

If you bust out of the easy way out, you&#039;ll find great people to network with that will land you that next great job - and in some cases, that network will include a recruiter!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just thought I&#8217;d put my two cents worth into this mix.  Most people that post their public resumes fall prey to some of the not so experienced recruiters out there.  In this type of a job market, I understand that the scared job hunters are trying every avenue known to mankind to get noticed.  It&#8217;s also true that over the last decade, more and more of this &#8220;getting noticed&#8221; takes place over the internet.  This is part of what I call, the &#8220;want it now&#8221; situation.  Immediate gratification for a small investment.<br />
When people don&#8217;t take the time to meet with each other and find ways to connect, it&#8217;s impossible to get rid of the lousy recruiters who don&#8217;t want to spend real time working.<br />
There are plenty of dopey internal and external recruiters out there who read &#8220;ruby on rails&#8221; and want to talk with you, Angelo when you post your resume on line. </p>
<p>The people that are the good recruiters, who don&#8217;t see your resume on line, who want to develop a relationship with you now in the event at some point in the future there may be a great opportunity you want to hear about &#8212; don&#8217;t surf the boards looking for people.</p>
<p>The great recruiters are few and far between and it&#8217;s as difficult for them to find you as it is for you to find them.  My advice is to do some research in your area of expertise, and locate 3-5 recruiters and interview them.<br />
Long term, it can boost your career potential, help you land the job you do want, and give you an experience working with professionals.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m always on the look out for talent &#8211; and finding the great people when my customers are seeking them is difficult. As is, finding a great job.  If you&#8217;re spending time on the boards, you&#8217;ll get the same poor quality with most everyone you&#8217;re in contact with.  </p>
<p>If you bust out of the easy way out, you&#8217;ll find great people to network with that will land you that next great job &#8211; and in some cases, that network will include a recruiter!</p>
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		<title>By: JB King</title>
		<link>http://corcodilos.com/blog/341/an-open-letter-to-recruiters-who-use-theladders-stop-complaining/comment-page-1#comment-6243</link>
		<dc:creator>JB King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 05:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reconfirms for me this magical line that each side in job hunting have to note and not fall on the wrong side:

For job hunters, sending out 100s of resumes believing that, &quot;I only need 1% to get me interviews and I&#039;ll be fine,&quot; thinking.

For employers, receiving 100s of resumes believing that, &quot;There will be some quality candidates here,&quot; thinking.

What kind of magic are each side really thinking here?  I&#039;m often thinking that both sides are trying to do the minimal amount of work to get what they want without realizing that it likely works much better if care is taken at the beginning of the process and oh yeah it may be hard work to find a good job as opposed to just any job.  That somehow computers will provide people from lying or embellishing either job descriptions or resumes?  Seriously?  Even I knew better 15 years ago when there wasn&#039;t much interest in the world wide web as Netscape was just getting off the ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reconfirms for me this magical line that each side in job hunting have to note and not fall on the wrong side:</p>
<p>For job hunters, sending out 100s of resumes believing that, &#8220;I only need 1% to get me interviews and I&#8217;ll be fine,&#8221; thinking.</p>
<p>For employers, receiving 100s of resumes believing that, &#8220;There will be some quality candidates here,&#8221; thinking.</p>
<p>What kind of magic are each side really thinking here?  I&#8217;m often thinking that both sides are trying to do the minimal amount of work to get what they want without realizing that it likely works much better if care is taken at the beginning of the process and oh yeah it may be hard work to find a good job as opposed to just any job.  That somehow computers will provide people from lying or embellishing either job descriptions or resumes?  Seriously?  Even I knew better 15 years ago when there wasn&#8217;t much interest in the world wide web as Netscape was just getting off the ground.</p>
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		<title>By: Angelo</title>
		<link>http://corcodilos.com/blog/341/an-open-letter-to-recruiters-who-use-theladders-stop-complaining/comment-page-1#comment-6221</link>
		<dc:creator>Angelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 12:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi agree with both Nick and Ray. Today, the so called recruiters, work exclusively by keywords. An example? About 1 year and half ago, on my job posting I wrote that I was &quot;developing right now skills on Ruby on Rails&quot;. What does this mean? That I was (and still I am) a beginner with the language and its frame, with no experience whatsoever. Well a recruiter contacted me, asking for at least 5-7 years experience in Ruby on Rails. According to Wikipedia Rails (the application framework for Ruby) was released in the summer of 2004; by the way this information is correct. So my question is: who the heck can have (Fall 2007) 5-7 years experience on something released only 3 years earlier?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi agree with both Nick and Ray. Today, the so called recruiters, work exclusively by keywords. An example? About 1 year and half ago, on my job posting I wrote that I was &#8220;developing right now skills on Ruby on Rails&#8221;. What does this mean? That I was (and still I am) a beginner with the language and its frame, with no experience whatsoever. Well a recruiter contacted me, asking for at least 5-7 years experience in Ruby on Rails. According to Wikipedia Rails (the application framework for Ruby) was released in the summer of 2004; by the way this information is correct. So my question is: who the heck can have (Fall 2007) 5-7 years experience on something released only 3 years earlier?</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://corcodilos.com/blog/341/an-open-letter-to-recruiters-who-use-theladders-stop-complaining/comment-page-1#comment-6188</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand jobhunters who apply to everything they see. They may be desperate and get lucky.  What tickles me is posting a resume with specific skills and getting calls from headhunters looking to fill totally unrelated slots.  
Resume: &quot;Expert in IBM mainframes&quot;
HH: &quot;I have a SysAdmin opening for a SQL DB on Windows servers&quot;.
Twenty year ago, I got unsolicited calls from HH about once month, just trolling, hoping to find someone looking to change jobs.  Guess the HH today are just the next generation of useless twits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand jobhunters who apply to everything they see. They may be desperate and get lucky.  What tickles me is posting a resume with specific skills and getting calls from headhunters looking to fill totally unrelated slots.<br />
Resume: &#8220;Expert in IBM mainframes&#8221;<br />
HH: &#8220;I have a SysAdmin opening for a SQL DB on Windows servers&#8221;.<br />
Twenty year ago, I got unsolicited calls from HH about once month, just trolling, hoping to find someone looking to change jobs.  Guess the HH today are just the next generation of useless twits.</p>
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