<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Unfair interviews are best</title>
	<atom:link href="http://corcodilos.com/blog/808/unfair-interviews-are-best/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://corcodilos.com/blog/808/unfair-interviews-are-best</link>
	<description>The insider&#039;s edge on job search &#38; hiring™ &#124; Copyright © 2011 North Bridge Group, Inc. All rights reserved.</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 16:40:12 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://corcodilos.com/blog/808/unfair-interviews-are-best/comment-page-1#comment-16218</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://corcodilos.com/blog/?p=808#comment-16218</guid>
		<description>Most organization are mediocre. But 80% of companies think they perform above average. ;-)

Agree, gov&#039;t a is different beast. That is not about being productive. It&#039;s about warming a seat. It punishes people who &quot;stand out&quot;.

Here&#039;s the thing - if you want to be &quot;fair&quot;, it starts with the company culture. Fair is not the same as equal. 

I recall I had a standardized interview for a public sector job. 3 person panel. 2 people loved me, the other did not. 

And he had good reason; I was not an ideal fit for one aspect of the job. They offered me the position, but I declined; I told them it would be disrespectful to that person if I was hired over his objections, and they shouldn&#039;t minimize his concerns.

I wasn&#039;t selling myself short, but rather having integrity in my process - I wasn&#039;t going to work with resentful people day one; life is too short. Needless to say, they were surprised. Later, they had the guy contact me and apologize and ask me to reconsider! Poor guy got browbeat into it. I felt bad for him, because he was doing his job properly, but pushed to conform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most organization are mediocre. But 80% of companies think they perform above average. ;-)</p>
<p>Agree, gov&#8217;t a is different beast. That is not about being productive. It&#8217;s about warming a seat. It punishes people who &#8220;stand out&#8221;.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the thing &#8211; if you want to be &#8220;fair&#8221;, it starts with the company culture. Fair is not the same as equal. </p>
<p>I recall I had a standardized interview for a public sector job. 3 person panel. 2 people loved me, the other did not. </p>
<p>And he had good reason; I was not an ideal fit for one aspect of the job. They offered me the position, but I declined; I told them it would be disrespectful to that person if I was hired over his objections, and they shouldn&#8217;t minimize his concerns.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t selling myself short, but rather having integrity in my process &#8211; I wasn&#8217;t going to work with resentful people day one; life is too short. Needless to say, they were surprised. Later, they had the guy contact me and apologize and ask me to reconsider! Poor guy got browbeat into it. I felt bad for him, because he was doing his job properly, but pushed to conform.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ask a Manager</title>
		<link>http://corcodilos.com/blog/808/unfair-interviews-are-best/comment-page-1#comment-16203</link>
		<dc:creator>Ask a Manager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://corcodilos.com/blog/?p=808#comment-16203</guid>
		<description>I think these policies are devised by people who don&#039;t understand the spirit of anti-discrimination laws and are either too lazy or too dumb to figure out how to hire well while still following the law. It&#039;s like places that just refuse to give references for past employees -- it&#039;s not illegal to give detailed references, but they know there are *potential* legal landmines, so they just shut the whole thing down.

It&#039;s not hard to follow the law while still showing that you&#039;re not engaging in illegal discrimination. These companies are guilty of lazy thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think these policies are devised by people who don&#8217;t understand the spirit of anti-discrimination laws and are either too lazy or too dumb to figure out how to hire well while still following the law. It&#8217;s like places that just refuse to give references for past employees &#8212; it&#8217;s not illegal to give detailed references, but they know there are *potential* legal landmines, so they just shut the whole thing down.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not hard to follow the law while still showing that you&#8217;re not engaging in illegal discrimination. These companies are guilty of lazy thinking.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://corcodilos.com/blog/808/unfair-interviews-are-best/comment-page-1#comment-16192</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://corcodilos.com/blog/?p=808#comment-16192</guid>
		<description>No wonder so many organizations are mediocre.  Why would you want to select people this way?  I like hiring people smarter than me.  I would expect the person hiring me to want someone smart also, not a cookie cutter drone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No wonder so many organizations are mediocre.  Why would you want to select people this way?  I like hiring people smarter than me.  I would expect the person hiring me to want someone smart also, not a cookie cutter drone.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Nick Corcodilos</title>
		<link>http://corcodilos.com/blog/808/unfair-interviews-are-best/comment-page-1#comment-16184</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Corcodilos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://corcodilos.com/blog/?p=808#comment-16184</guid>
		<description>@Janet: Govt jobs are a different beast. I know the process is very prescribed. Doesn&#039;t mean it makes sense. But nor does it mean you should follow my lead in such cases ;-). Like my mentor used to say, Use your judgment and do the best you can.

Even in the corp world, employment laws bind the hands of employers. I think one can operate legally and fairly in soliciting applicants and in interviewing them. But when it comes to hiring the best, there&#039;s simply no choice but to do it right. Follow the rules, but use them to your advantage.

I&#039;ll tell you a quick story. I was hired by a federal govt agency a few years ago to do a workshop for its employees. The operation was being closed and they wanted to help people who were being let go. So I did it. To my surprise, a group of HR managers ushered me into a conference room. They wanted to know how they could be more &quot;selective&quot; about who they hired while still respecting the &quot;fairness&quot; rules they had to live under. They were very frustrated, because they were often forced by policy to hire mediocre candidates. How could they get around that? I suggested that they establish more detailed criteria that really reflected what they wanted to accomplish. Use the system against itself. I&#039;m not sure what came out of it, but what was interesting is that there was an internal realization that the policies undermined good hiring.

Go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Janet: Govt jobs are a different beast. I know the process is very prescribed. Doesn&#8217;t mean it makes sense. But nor does it mean you should follow my lead in such cases ;-). Like my mentor used to say, Use your judgment and do the best you can.</p>
<p>Even in the corp world, employment laws bind the hands of employers. I think one can operate legally and fairly in soliciting applicants and in interviewing them. But when it comes to hiring the best, there&#8217;s simply no choice but to do it right. Follow the rules, but use them to your advantage.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll tell you a quick story. I was hired by a federal govt agency a few years ago to do a workshop for its employees. The operation was being closed and they wanted to help people who were being let go. So I did it. To my surprise, a group of HR managers ushered me into a conference room. They wanted to know how they could be more &#8220;selective&#8221; about who they hired while still respecting the &#8220;fairness&#8221; rules they had to live under. They were very frustrated, because they were often forced by policy to hire mediocre candidates. How could they get around that? I suggested that they establish more detailed criteria that really reflected what they wanted to accomplish. Use the system against itself. I&#8217;m not sure what came out of it, but what was interesting is that there was an internal realization that the policies undermined good hiring.</p>
<p>Go figure.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Janet</title>
		<link>http://corcodilos.com/blog/808/unfair-interviews-are-best/comment-page-1#comment-16182</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://corcodilos.com/blog/?p=808#comment-16182</guid>
		<description>Glad you have that luxury, Nick. I&#039;ve been told (and I&#039;m not a hiring manager) that these scores allotted under equal conditions need to be available in case someone files a grievance saying I was a better candidate and did not get the job. I&#039;m speaking about a large government workforce. I do not know if the &quot;closing statements&quot; I insist on making even get scored. I&#039;m doing them to make a forceful final impression that i hope at least makes me memorable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you have that luxury, Nick. I&#8217;ve been told (and I&#8217;m not a hiring manager) that these scores allotted under equal conditions need to be available in case someone files a grievance saying I was a better candidate and did not get the job. I&#8217;m speaking about a large government workforce. I do not know if the &#8220;closing statements&#8221; I insist on making even get scored. I&#8217;m doing them to make a forceful final impression that i hope at least makes me memorable.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Bonnie</title>
		<link>http://corcodilos.com/blog/808/unfair-interviews-are-best/comment-page-1#comment-16181</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://corcodilos.com/blog/?p=808#comment-16181</guid>
		<description>Gee, Nick... you make so much sense it&#039;s downright scary. :-)  I wish you were in charge of our HR department!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, Nick&#8230; you make so much sense it&#8217;s downright scary. :-)  I wish you were in charge of our HR department!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

