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	<title>Comments on: Congress to Employers: You&#8217;re not proctologists</title>
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		<title>By: Nic</title>
		<link>http://corcodilos.com/blog/974/congress-to-employers-youre-not-proctologists/comment-page-1#comment-25173</link>
		<dc:creator>Nic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article Suzanne. Thank you for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Suzanne. Thank you for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
		<link>http://corcodilos.com/blog/974/congress-to-employers-youre-not-proctologists/comment-page-1#comment-25172</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Found this in my Web travels:

http://www.law.com/jsp/cc/PubArticleCC.jsp?id=1202437243854&amp;You_Wanna_Background_Check_Me_Well_Be_Careful_emWhereem_You_Look_</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found this in my Web travels:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/cc/PubArticleCC.jsp?id=1202437243854&#038;You_Wanna_Background_Check_Me_Well_Be_Careful_emWhereem_You_Look_" rel="nofollow">http://www.law.com/jsp/cc/PubArticleCC.jsp?id=1202437243854&#038;You_Wanna_Background_Check_Me_Well_Be_Careful_emWhereem_You_Look_</a></p>
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		<title>By: kel</title>
		<link>http://corcodilos.com/blog/974/congress-to-employers-youre-not-proctologists/comment-page-1#comment-20446</link>
		<dc:creator>kel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. Nick, I&#039;ll be contacting my local congresswo/men...Legislative change is long overdue.  Double kudos to Mr. Cohen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Nick, I&#8217;ll be contacting my local congresswo/men&#8230;Legislative change is long overdue.  Double kudos to Mr. Cohen.</p>
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		<title>By: kel</title>
		<link>http://corcodilos.com/blog/974/congress-to-employers-youre-not-proctologists/comment-page-1#comment-20444</link>
		<dc:creator>kel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*rubs hands together*

going on an interview tomorrow with a temp agency, and tempted to turn the tables on them and ask incredibly invasive/nosy/irrelevant questions.  I truly have nothing to lose!

On a serious note, it&#039;s all a joke.  That is my attitude going into these places--&quot;do you want me or not?&quot;  I KNOW most of the work they offer is more suited to a monkey&#039;s behind, but I&#039;ll play the game for a bit, then show my true hand.
MMMMMWWWHHHAAAAAA!

Hope to report back later in the week.

(*BTW, I recommend others do this, as well..It&#039;s an interesting social experiment, a la &quot;Office Space&quot;--feign disinterest, having someplace to be, etc.  When you don&#039;t have the air of desperation, it is really interesting how employers can suddenly want to call you back--OR EVEN HIRE YOU.)

Anyway, it all comes down to what Nick said, &quot;This is where change starts and insanity ends.&quot;  Time to flip the script.  I&#039;m not just talking about it, I&#039;m doing it!

P.S.  I kinda do it to piss of HR, too...Hell, you waste my time, I&#039;m gonna make you pay in some way.  A lot of these places just want to collect resumes (and personal info), without a real job, or even having filled the job already.  No problemo, muchacha/o.  I have nothing else to do, don&#039;t mind sitting and chatting.  Gets me out of the house and around town to see different coffee shops and other fine (or not-so-fine) retail establishments.  Hey, maybe on the way to your office, I&#039;ll pass  a company that I really want to work for, I&#039;ll walk in and talk to the manager, and who knows....

In the meantime, I work for myself, advertising my writing, cleaning, babysitting, egg-frying/etc skills.  Nothing beats ca$hola.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*rubs hands together*</p>
<p>going on an interview tomorrow with a temp agency, and tempted to turn the tables on them and ask incredibly invasive/nosy/irrelevant questions.  I truly have nothing to lose!</p>
<p>On a serious note, it&#8217;s all a joke.  That is my attitude going into these places&#8211;&#8221;do you want me or not?&#8221;  I KNOW most of the work they offer is more suited to a monkey&#8217;s behind, but I&#8217;ll play the game for a bit, then show my true hand.<br />
MMMMMWWWHHHAAAAAA!</p>
<p>Hope to report back later in the week.</p>
<p>(*BTW, I recommend others do this, as well..It&#8217;s an interesting social experiment, a la &#8220;Office Space&#8221;&#8211;feign disinterest, having someplace to be, etc.  When you don&#8217;t have the air of desperation, it is really interesting how employers can suddenly want to call you back&#8211;OR EVEN HIRE YOU.)</p>
<p>Anyway, it all comes down to what Nick said, &#8220;This is where change starts and insanity ends.&#8221;  Time to flip the script.  I&#8217;m not just talking about it, I&#8217;m doing it!</p>
<p>P.S.  I kinda do it to piss of HR, too&#8230;Hell, you waste my time, I&#8217;m gonna make you pay in some way.  A lot of these places just want to collect resumes (and personal info), without a real job, or even having filled the job already.  No problemo, muchacha/o.  I have nothing else to do, don&#8217;t mind sitting and chatting.  Gets me out of the house and around town to see different coffee shops and other fine (or not-so-fine) retail establishments.  Hey, maybe on the way to your office, I&#8217;ll pass  a company that I really want to work for, I&#8217;ll walk in and talk to the manager, and who knows&#8230;.</p>
<p>In the meantime, I work for myself, advertising my writing, cleaning, babysitting, egg-frying/etc skills.  Nothing beats ca$hola.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
		<link>http://corcodilos.com/blog/974/congress-to-employers-youre-not-proctologists/comment-page-1#comment-19749</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, and I am grateful for the opportunity to get it off my chest.

Ironic, HR has no problem hiding behind legal liability to justify their existence, but that doesn&#039;t count when it comes to their own questionable practices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and I am grateful for the opportunity to get it off my chest.</p>
<p>Ironic, HR has no problem hiding behind legal liability to justify their existence, but that doesn&#8217;t count when it comes to their own questionable practices.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Corcodilos</title>
		<link>http://corcodilos.com/blog/974/congress-to-employers-youre-not-proctologists/comment-page-1#comment-19336</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Corcodilos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Suzanne: You&#039;re bringing up the dirty little secret that many in HR will not discuss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Suzanne: You&#8217;re bringing up the dirty little secret that many in HR will not discuss.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
		<link>http://corcodilos.com/blog/974/congress-to-employers-youre-not-proctologists/comment-page-1#comment-19332</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ugly truth is that HR doesn&#039;t even know why they request this information. They only know what they have been told and sold. 

I have always felt that this practice was a thinly disguised (and legal!) way to discriminate against minorities whose credit scores are systematically lower than middle class white applicants. It is only now that white middle class workers have been displaced that I am hearing any protest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ugly truth is that HR doesn&#8217;t even know why they request this information. They only know what they have been told and sold. </p>
<p>I have always felt that this practice was a thinly disguised (and legal!) way to discriminate against minorities whose credit scores are systematically lower than middle class white applicants. It is only now that white middle class workers have been displaced that I am hearing any protest.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Ulle</title>
		<link>http://corcodilos.com/blog/974/congress-to-employers-youre-not-proctologists/comment-page-1#comment-19261</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Ulle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your comments.  Not certain it is totally crackpot but certainly misguided.  Check out http://intel.mercyhurst.edu/.  The methods used in the intelligence community to look for bad guys has bleed over to target marketing (or vice versa, not sure).  How far off will candidate screening be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your comments.  Not certain it is totally crackpot but certainly misguided.  Check out <a href="http://intel.mercyhurst.edu/" rel="nofollow">http://intel.mercyhurst.edu/</a>.  The methods used in the intelligence community to look for bad guys has bleed over to target marketing (or vice versa, not sure).  How far off will candidate screening be?</p>
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		<title>By: Nic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This to me is all about people fuelling their new crackpot ideas for business modelling and human resources; and in my view, it is all lunacy. What does this really mean? The quality of employee has declined drastically over the past 20 years. Does this mean a further dumbing down? Soon it will go full circle, and none of it will matter. If more and more people rejected this crap, it would not continue. Too many people are ready, willing and able to kiss up to whatever an interviewer is requesting of them, so who really is to blame for these crackpot theories escalating?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This to me is all about people fuelling their new crackpot ideas for business modelling and human resources; and in my view, it is all lunacy. What does this really mean? The quality of employee has declined drastically over the past 20 years. Does this mean a further dumbing down? Soon it will go full circle, and none of it will matter. If more and more people rejected this crap, it would not continue. Too many people are ready, willing and able to kiss up to whatever an interviewer is requesting of them, so who really is to blame for these crackpot theories escalating?</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Ulle</title>
		<link>http://corcodilos.com/blog/974/congress-to-employers-youre-not-proctologists/comment-page-1#comment-19228</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Ulle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick,

The credit check is nothing compared where the mining of information is going.  Using ZIP Code, age and gender there are algorithms that, with 85% reliability, identify you by name.

Ian Ayres in his book SuperCrunchers describes a future of predictive modeling that will through the manipulation of data predict future employee outcome.  Think of a world where you will be turned down for a job because some model will predict what you, as an employee, MIGHT do and not getting an offer because of that.  Nothing even as engaging as a drug screen or credit check, merely a stochastic process and analysis.  

Credit checks are childs play compared to this future.  It will all be in the numbers.  Talk about a moral dilemma!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick,</p>
<p>The credit check is nothing compared where the mining of information is going.  Using ZIP Code, age and gender there are algorithms that, with 85% reliability, identify you by name.</p>
<p>Ian Ayres in his book SuperCrunchers describes a future of predictive modeling that will through the manipulation of data predict future employee outcome.  Think of a world where you will be turned down for a job because some model will predict what you, as an employee, MIGHT do and not getting an offer because of that.  Nothing even as engaging as a drug screen or credit check, merely a stochastic process and analysis.  </p>
<p>Credit checks are childs play compared to this future.  It will all be in the numbers.  Talk about a moral dilemma!</p>
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